Paper on behalf of the Council was to meet him. I wrote a novel, "The sunny 1944", and Zhao’s style similar to, or description of the farmers first novel. Kang Sheng to the Bohai Sea, show me appreciate the story of Chairman Mao. However, since then I have been doing the party’s propaganda work, no longer engage in literary creation.
Lee: How do you personally contact? Wang: I respect him, I respect him. After 1953, I was SecretaryGeneral of East China Bureau of Propaganda, I was transferred to Vietnam Ho Chi Minh, head of the publicity consultant group. To go before I find him to listen to some of the specialized instruction. I was in Shanghai, he must find me
From Beijing. Later, I came back from Vietnam, was transferred to Beijing in the work of the International Liaison Department, and also do the "People’s Pictorial," to the Foreign Languages Press. Business owned by the International Liaison Department in this sector, but the Central Propaganda Department leaders go, so to some dealings with Zhou Yang. Lee: rightist, he can take

To reuse. Since then he has become a literary and art circles of the main leaders, Mao Zedong Thought practitioners. Wang: Zhou Yang was not representative of his own from any person in that position, had to do it. Including Hu Qiaomu. This decision is not his personal history, the history. Yan’an Rectification Movement before and after, for many people,
Including myself, have a big change. Many writers and people from the garret to the middle, which is change, Zhou Yang is. This is, after all, can not deny that Chairman Mao’s "speech" of the philosophical significance, and this is how to deal with the party’s cause, treatment of the revolution, to treat the masses. Lee: From the positive to
The letter Renzhou Yang Lu Xun, Zhou Yang, do you think the value of Mao Zedong is it? Wang: That’s Zhou Yang, Chairman Mao launched the "speech" in a great performance. Lee: You and Zhou Yang, the first contact was when? King: He is my freshman peers. I have been liberated areas in Shandong, until after 1949 to the first

What your origin, to fight under the banner of what should go its own way. He supported the Soviet Union, but did not agree to copy. Engage in inappropriate struggle, he did not agree. Chairman Mao is also a difficult time, Lu Xun’s clear support of Mao Zedong, many party comrades than even much earlier. Liu Shaoqi in the white
Area, and he was why the second place, because he has not in favor of Wang Ming, support of Chairman Mao. He knows also really support the Zunyi Meeting. Lee: As far as I know, Mao Zedong, and no clear indication of the "two slogans" attitude, not to say that Lu Xun, or Zhou Yang right. Wang: Zhou Yang’s "defense
Of literature," the slogan of course, wrong. "Two Slogans", the stand is higher Lu Xun. His slogan difficult to understand, but reflect independence. Not the president go to the KMT. In fact, including slogans, and to participate in debate, and do not know that inside the background. Li: Zhou Yang to Yan’an, the last still under Mao’s trust, was appointed

Problem only, not Chairman Mao a leader in the party. But Lu Xun Wang Ming line with the opposition, is the odd man out, he is supported by Chairman Mao, and in this respect played a significant role in Feng Xuefeng. Lee: You mean Chairman Mao in large part, is grateful to Lu Xun in his moral support. Wang: Yes.
Zhou Yang in the league during the implementation of the Wang Ming line, that party is subject to the impact of the Soviet intelligence agency, is Wang Ming, the dominant party line, that is Stalinist. Lee: Mao Zedong in Yan’an Rectification Movement was the last to establish his party’s absolute leadership. Wang: engage in Yan’an Rectification Movement, Chairman Mao is
To do this. He wants to own is right or wrong it ourselves, out of Soviet influence. The process of the Zunyi Meeting, Chairman Mao said to me, now I’m writing this memory. Mao emphasized that China’s backbone. Lu Xun was great, he did not know the Chinese Communist Party’s struggle, but he is connected with Chairman Mao. No matter

Revolution, Li: As a historical figure, you on Zhou Yang think? Wang: The comrade’s position in history is important. This is unlike some autobiographies, memoirs, stressed their importance, he is really important. The history of the party, he is important, regardless of right or wrong, are important and worthy of study, is a remarkable figure. Historically, he is the main
Representative of the party in the literary and art circles. Reflects the party’s ideological development of literary history and the Chinese Communist Party is also closely tied to the line. I think the left was the Chinese revolution, left the party’s history, isolation is not understand him. Lee: I agree with your view. Description Zhou Yang, Zhou Yang anatomy, a
Fact explaining the history of anatomy exactly one type of Chinese intellectuals. Zhou Yang and Lu Xun’s conflict may be one of the most worthy of study. Wang: I think Chairman Mao emphasized that Lu Xun, Lu Xun’s views because the route in the fight against Wang Ming, is consistent with him. Zunyi Meeting, the military route to solve the

And art, you know this how? Once: I was under the influence of leftwing literature and art to participate in the revolution. 30 years of leftwing literature and art, was very appealing to me, first of all because there are Lu Xun, there was some work I like, such as the Sha Ting’s novel. I do not agree with his
Criticism of Hu Feng. There Ai Wu, Zhang Tianyi work. I have some friends, are similar to the experience. Leftwing writers to help us on life, be aware of the community, in political terms, the pursuit, as their political followers. Began to publish my work, some of the views and 30 years is a little different. Are leftwing literature and
Art were the shortcomings and mistakes. It now appears that these errors I think is almost inevitable, the impact of the Soviet Union, Communist influence. Other older people to increase artistic accomplishments, I have my own ideas of art, that art weak, and political time: July 28, 1993 Wang Li  former members of the Central Leading Group for the Cultural

To. After 1946 years ago, I often went to see him, he and I talked about the cultural problem, all Feng view. However, in Hong Kong in 1947, he changed on the whole, in turn, become the Lord grant Hu Feng, he criticized the view, in fact, I talked with all his old views. Lee: I have heard Qiao Guanhua
As well. Once: in Chongqing, he and Hu Feng was a good friend, but a blink of an eye changed. Can be said that the political distortions of the art, but also distorts the personality, even if the good people there as people who can not get rid of. Feng Xuefeng and they are very different, but did not avoid
This fate. Feng followed step by step after the liberation of his dissatisfaction, he said a lot of insincere words. To be honest, I told him the performance was very disappointing. Lee: I always think, Zhou Yang, who demonstrated by the tragic history, is the tragedy of leftwing literary movement itself. Creation from the beginning since you are leftwing literature

It is shallow, not how kind temperament. "Great senior cadres", "Sun Shines", I simply can not see. Lee: "The Sun Shines on," I have seen twice, failed to finish. I very much agree with your idea. Do not you think, like Hu Feng and Zhou Yang, also a history of tragic characters? Have: Feng of course, but the two are
Very different. Tragedy of Hu contributed to his greatness. Zhou Yang is a tragic figure, but the real victims of fallen out of his own. Feng has his theories and works with his achievements in, handed down by his article. Zhou Yang then? No. In addition to the big criticism of the article and summary reports, he’s collected works, what
Else more valuable things? I think his best articles, is, and Wang Ruoshui, Wangyuanhua to write about the humanitarian and alienation article. Li: Zhou Yang, the situation similar to the writers, theorists, to be many. Have: This is the tragedy of their generation. I am quite familiar and Shao Lin Quan, Wuhan made "river newspaper," when, and he has come

Personal conflicts that he and Hu Feng, they contributed to the miscarriage of justice, Hu Feng. Mao Zedong’s "In the Yan’an Forum on Literature and Speech", Hu Feng was not opposed, he only stood for literature and art should have different interpretations. Zhou Yang can only talk from a political, not clear from the literature and art, but also add
This to charge him in the Hu Feng. Ding Ling was labeled after I heard right, gave written to Zhou Yang, said: "How I would like to return to your side." But no response, I do not know how to Zhou Yang. Lee: Here insert one, I would like to seriously look "at the Yan’an Forum on Literature and speech"
And the Chinese intellectuals, and the relationship between literature and art in China, how do you evaluate the "speech"? Has been: can not talk about in detail today. As a writer, from creation, the "speech" after a number of good works Yan’an? No. Only as propaganda, just look at from a political point of view. Zhao’s work considered better, but

Yang in itself is a victim. He is not alone. Guo Xiaochuan, Yuan water film is. After 1955, Austin’s wife, Lu Guo Xiaochuan to find work, to her divorce, and then another to help her matchmaking. His last "Cultural Revolution" has not a good experience. Yuan Shuipai "Cultural Revolution" when the minister of culture, not some old friends on the
Grounds that Xu Chi. Finally, die blues. Lee: A lot of similar things, are worthy of study, the only way to conclude from the lessons of history, can the tragedy occurred as little as possible. The problem is that history has often been forgotten, those who repeat the old tracks still exist. Have: political movement that is continually distorted, even
Good people will be distorted. Thus, the total literary accomplice, Bangxian, in a very long time, Zhou Yang should be said synthesizer. Twins: a personal factor work? Once: the role of individuals is also important. Zhou Yang’s personal qualities, in fact, deepened some bad things, the results really were a kind of defeat the forces of alienation. For example, the